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As the episode unfolds, we explore the economic chaos of the early 1930s, where unemployment soared to an astounding 25% and banks collapsed, leaving countless Americans destitute. Amid this turmoil, Butler, a two-time Medal of Honor recipient and a highly respected military figure, found himself at the center of a plot orchestrated by powerful corporate interests who felt threatened by FDR’s New Deal policies. These businessmen, including members of the American Legion, sought to recruit Butler to lead a march of half a million veterans on Washington, D.C., using intimidation to oust FDR and install a fascist government in its place.
Listeners will learn about the key players behind this shocking conspiracy, including Gerald C. McGuire, a bond salesman and the mastermind of the plot, who sought to recruit Butler after a trip to Europe where he studied fascist movements. The episode sheds light on how these affluent elites, disillusioned by FDR's progressive reforms, believed they could manipulate the American military and public sentiment to install their own puppet regime. With vivid storytelling and sharp analysis, the hosts draw parallels between the rhetoric of the 1930s and today’s political landscape, highlighting how the same themes of fear and manipulation are ever-present.
The episode takes an intriguing turn as Butler, initially skeptical, decides to gather evidence rather than immediately going public. What follows is a riveting account of Butler’s clandestine meetings and the eventual testimony he delivers to Congress, where he lays bare the details of the conspiracy. Despite confirming the plot's existence, the congressional committee ultimately failed to hold any major players accountable, and the media dismissed the story as a hoax, ensuring the plot faded into obscurity.
Listeners will not only gain insights into this remarkable event but will also ponder its implications for contemporary America. Why has this story remained buried, and what does it say about the intersection of wealth, power, and democracy?
Join us as we peel back the layers of this extraordinary tale filled with political intrigue, historical significance, and cautionary lessons about the fragility of democracy. Tune in to "Rainy Day Rabbit Holes" for an episode that promises to challenge your understanding of American history and inspire you to think critically about the forces that shape our political landscape today.
Did wealthy Wall Street elites try to overthrow President Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1934?
In this episode of Rainy Day Rabbit Holes, we dive into one of the strangest and least-taught chapters in American history: The Business Plot, an alleged fascist coup attempt against FDR during the Great Depression.
In 1934, decorated Marine Corps Major General Smedley Darlington Butler—a two-time Medal of Honor recipient and one of the most respected military figures in the country—testified before Congress that powerful businessmen approached him with a shocking proposal. They wanted him to lead 500,000 veterans in a march on Washington, intimidate President Franklin D. Roosevelt, and install a new authoritarian-style government.
Yes. In the United States. During the 1930s.
The alleged conspirators were connected to major financial and industrial interests, including Wall Street power players and members of the American Liberty League. Butler claimed the plan involved replacing democratic authority with a “Secretary of General Affairs”—a role that functioned suspiciously like a dictator. The proposed justification? That FDR was too weak and too radical to govern.
The House McCormack–Dickstein Committee investigated. They confirmed that discussions of such a plot had taken place. And yet—no one was prosecuted. Major newspapers dismissed the story as a hoax. The headlines faded. The plot slipped into obscurity.
Why isn’t this taught in most history classes?
Who benefited from burying it?
And what does this moment reveal about the tension between corporate power and democracy in America?
We explore:
- The economic chaos of the Great Depression
- The rise of fascist movements globally in the 1930s
- Butler’s explosive testimony
- The media response
- And why this story still echoes today
History is messy. Sometimes it’s buried on purpose.
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